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Because I had developed suspicions on whether my opponent grasped these ramifications, I asked this question: “Can the assertion ‘God perished on the combination’ be understood in the Orthodox sense? He went onto clarify his answer: “Standing exclusively, the comment that ‘God passed on’ is facially heterodox, though it can be trained to another interpretation. This answer is information heresy (rather than formal heresy), and is embracing a form of Nestorianism. To state “God died” is heterodox, while “Jesus died” is Orthodox, is Nestorian in that it creates ‘God’ and ‘Jesus’ in this context two separate persons. There’s an Orthodox sense that “God passed away on the cross” can be understood.
Death is not a ceasing of life but rather the separation of body and spirit (which the Divine Nature is not composed of, thus cannot experience loss of life). Together with the above explanation at heart, the Early Church Father’s my opponent cites in support of his position can be properly known. Ambrose is obviously speaking of the known fact the Divine Nature cannot experience pain or death, as opposed to the human aspect. Ambrose estimates 1 Corinthians 2:8 where it affirms they “crucified the Lord of glory,” which is equivalent to saying the Lord God, the Son, was crucified and died.
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The St Leo quote says this in the same way obviously: “He Who underwent fatality is the same as He Who never ceased to be eternal.” The “He” in this word is God the Son. I will now give you a recap of the entire debate, touching on all the real things I consider decisive against the Penal Substitution position. The Old Testament sacrifices were proven to not operate in a Penal Substitution framework.
My opponent had almost no response to this fact. Sacrifices for example the sin offerings, scapegoat, Passover, and pre-Mosaic offerings all directed from what you might be prepared to see in a Penal Substitution platform. Since Christ was prefigured in every these sacrifices, there may be without doubt the serious problems this puts my opponent in so far as Scriptural support is concerned.
While my challenger appeared to shy from the various information of the Father pouring out His Wrath on Jesus, I’ve referenced numerous respectable Reformed theologians and pastors who advocate such a view openly. They make it clear the importance of the facet of Christ’s suffering was first rate. Together with the many estimates already given, last year two huge Reformed meetings were placed with popular Reformed pastors such as R.C. Spoul, C.J. Mahaney, and John Piper. “What prevents us from discovering God is our soul.
Our impurity. But Jesus received no impurity. And Thomas said He was clean in heart. So He had some certainly, some experience of the beauty of the paternal father. Until that moment, that my sin was positioned about Him. And the one who was simply pure was pure no more. And God cursed Him.
“Hell is focused on echoing faintly the glory of Calvary. That’s the so this means of hell in this room right now. To help you feel in a few emotional gauge the magnificence of what Christ did for you when he bore not only your eternal anguish but millions of people’s eternal anguish when His Father put our curse on Him. What a Savior is echoed in the flames of hell. So that’s why when I say hell can be an echo of the glory of God and an echo of the Savior’s sufferings, and therefore an echo of the infinite love of God for our souls.” (John Piper.